I still very much would like to be reviewing video cards, and some day I hope to get there. But the amount of lab work required to put together a good, comprehensive video card review in absolutely enormous. For the moment, it's proven extremely challenging with the limited resources available.Reply
I have been coming to this site for decades... I absolutely loved the deep dives that got into the nitty and gritty on how various pieces of silicon worked and more over the decades.
Case in point, the amazing SSD Anthology article that was written in 2009, extremely well researched, but it also educated your readers on a then-emerging technology.
I get it, that the site lacks resources, it's been a big issue over the last several years. But as I spend more time venturing elsewhere to get my information, I spend less time on Anandtech, which means less clicks, less revenue and eventually less resources available for the site as a whole.
Something needs to change, it's not the number 1 port of call for many of us long-time readers now.Reply
This is sad, I know several of the writers\editors left, and you can't just cover all of the content and keep the gold standard you have set. I hope one day maybe you bounce back from the position you're in.Reply
why is everyone so focused on full lab graphics reviews, we have a selection of those elsewhere that have the equipment for measuring things like granular power delivery and 1% lows seem to have become pretty standard (but i still think we need framerate line graphs over time, not average bars)
what's more valuable from anand are the technical deep dives, architecture explanations, and industry interviews, i'm especially fond of the exclusive behind the scenes ati terrascale backstories well past launch
it also seems odd that toms content is not mirrored or collaborated (what if toms does the testing and anand does the architecture+explanations)Reply
i frequented since like 2007, the technical deep dives are part of the reviews
the site isnt independent, it's owned by a major publishing giant, the same one that owns toms, why would you act like it's in a vacuum that needs its own content to pad out the siteReply
You mean the lab work for your comprehensive video card reviews that was done out of some guy's house in california for YEARS? The kind that brought in major clicks? You guys, after three years, still cant figure out how to rebuild your old testing rig (but you can do it with CPUs for some reason)?
C'mon man. What's with these excuses? At what point do you admit that anandtech is a dying website?Reply
that some guy is the head of the site, with way more to do than merely reviewing like the other members doing other parts
wtf value is there in admitting anything, who says it wasnt admitted or implied before, you're the one often writing aggressive assy comments on a dying siteReply
"..with workstation users asking for more RAM, more I/O, and more support.."
More I/O in relationship to GPUs? What input does a GPU need in a workstation that it doesn't need in another desktop PC? I get maybe more display output might be useful to a point, but consumer graphics adapters generally have fully populated backplates with lots of monitor connectors which don't appear to be significantly different for professional graphics adapters. That's a rather odd thing to state in the context of GPUs even if it makes sense in the wider context of workstation hardware in general to a certain extent.Reply
I know its cost prohibitive, but an MI300 as a host for one of these would be really cool.
Lets take Blender, for instance... you run your generative AI on the MI300 GPU while the W7000 handles the viewport and quick renders, and then you can use both for the actual render. Video editing could have a similar workflow, with the end filters and encoding all on the dGPU.Reply
Solidworks people still have lingering issues with AMD video drivers, but they usually have to do with plugins, and some dev's just don't certify FireGL's etc. Likewise, some products often favor AMD GPU's over Quadro's, especially Cinebench and Luxmark.Reply
You're welcome AMD entry into vertical by horizontal broadcast family of components with Xilinx is a much bigger opportunity than Pro W on its own where there is a place for professional in broadcast and in a market unlike data center per se (but a segment of data center similar hyperscale and HPC) where AMD chimp does not have to compete with Intel and Nvidia Gorillas. mbReply
Would normally expect these to become available in an MPX module for the Mac Pro tower. However that would put the new Apple Silicon based Mac Pro in a strange position - likely where the Intel based model has a substantially better GPU option than the M2 Ultra can provide.Reply
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krazyfrog - Thursday, April 13, 2023 - link
Did you completely skip the 4070 announcement? Replymikegrok - Thursday, April 13, 2023 - link
Their partner site tomshardware.com handled the 4070 announcement. ReplyTheinsanegamerN - Thursday, April 13, 2023 - link
So I guess anandtech finally dropped the mask on the whole "were totally gonna review GPUs again guys" thing? ReplyRyan Smith - Thursday, April 13, 2023 - link
I still very much would like to be reviewing video cards, and some day I hope to get there. But the amount of lab work required to put together a good, comprehensive video card review in absolutely enormous. For the moment, it's proven extremely challenging with the limited resources available. ReplyStevoLincolnite - Thursday, April 13, 2023 - link
I have been coming to this site for decades... I absolutely loved the deep dives that got into the nitty and gritty on how various pieces of silicon worked and more over the decades.Case in point, the amazing SSD Anthology article that was written in 2009, extremely well researched, but it also educated your readers on a then-emerging technology.
I get it, that the site lacks resources, it's been a big issue over the last several years.
But as I spend more time venturing elsewhere to get my information, I spend less time on Anandtech, which means less clicks, less revenue and eventually less resources available for the site as a whole.
Something needs to change, it's not the number 1 port of call for many of us long-time readers now. Reply
Ryan Smith - Friday, April 14, 2023 - link
I hear you, and it's definitely something I'm painfully aware of. We're not giving you guys enough content to check in on a daily basis. ReplyEliadbu - Friday, April 14, 2023 - link
This is sad, I know several of the writers\editors left, and you can't just cover all of the content and keep the gold standard you have set. I hope one day maybe you bounce back from the position you're in. Replykn00tcn - Friday, April 14, 2023 - link
why is everyone so focused on full lab graphics reviews, we have a selection of those elsewhere that have the equipment for measuring things like granular power delivery and 1% lows seem to have become pretty standard (but i still think we need framerate line graphs over time, not average bars)what's more valuable from anand are the technical deep dives, architecture explanations, and industry interviews, i'm especially fond of the exclusive behind the scenes ati terrascale backstories well past launch
it also seems odd that toms content is not mirrored or collaborated (what if toms does the testing and anand does the architecture+explanations) Reply
Threska - Saturday, April 15, 2023 - link
Leveraging off others big investments although I'm sure LTT wants to keep all his clicks in a world that doesn't value them enough. ReplyTheinsanegamerN - Tuesday, April 18, 2023 - link
Because GPU reviews bring in clicks. The technical deep dives are expensive and time consuming. You need something else to pad out the site.Anyone who used to frequent Anandtech 10 years ago will tell you this place is a dead zombie shambling compared to what it used to be. Reply
kn00tcn - Tuesday, April 18, 2023 - link
i frequented since like 2007, the technical deep dives are part of the reviewsthe site isnt independent, it's owned by a major publishing giant, the same one that owns toms, why would you act like it's in a vacuum that needs its own content to pad out the site Reply
TheinsanegamerN - Tuesday, April 18, 2023 - link
You mean the lab work for your comprehensive video card reviews that was done out of some guy's house in california for YEARS? The kind that brought in major clicks? You guys, after three years, still cant figure out how to rebuild your old testing rig (but you can do it with CPUs for some reason)?C'mon man. What's with these excuses? At what point do you admit that anandtech is a dying website? Reply
kn00tcn - Tuesday, April 18, 2023 - link
that some guy is the head of the site, with way more to do than merely reviewing like the other members doing other partswtf value is there in admitting anything, who says it wasnt admitted or implied before, you're the one often writing aggressive assy comments on a dying site Reply
Ryan Smith - Thursday, April 13, 2023 - link
We were not briefed by NVIDIA on the GeForce RTX 4070.On a quieter news day I would have picked it up anyhow. But I'm short on time this week, so there hasn't been an opportunity to work on it yet. Reply
Samus - Thursday, April 13, 2023 - link
It's ok, there's nothing to report on. It's an even more insulting proposition than the 4070Ti given the price. ReplyOxford Guy - Saturday, April 15, 2023 - link
What would be nice to have is better competition, so that we won't have the Hobson's choice of two companies' flawed products. ReplyThreska - Monday, April 17, 2023 - link
Well that was what ARC was about. ReplyPeachNCream - Thursday, April 13, 2023 - link
"..with workstation users asking for more RAM, more I/O, and more support.."More I/O in relationship to GPUs? What input does a GPU need in a workstation that it doesn't need in another desktop PC? I get maybe more display output might be useful to a point, but consumer graphics adapters generally have fully populated backplates with lots of monitor connectors which don't appear to be significantly different for professional graphics adapters. That's a rather odd thing to state in the context of GPUs even if it makes sense in the wider context of workstation hardware in general to a certain extent. Reply
brucethemoose - Thursday, April 13, 2023 - link
I know its cost prohibitive, but an MI300 as a host for one of these would be really cool.Lets take Blender, for instance... you run your generative AI on the MI300 GPU while the W7000 handles the viewport and quick renders, and then you can use both for the actual render. Video editing could have a similar workflow, with the end filters and encoding all on the dGPU. Reply
ballsystemlord - Thursday, April 13, 2023 - link
So AMD finally got their drivers for RDNA3 all fixed up? Replyzamroni - Thursday, April 13, 2023 - link
You can use pro driver for consumer Radeon cards as well ReplySamus - Thursday, April 13, 2023 - link
Solidworks people still have lingering issues with AMD video drivers, but they usually have to do with plugins, and some dev's just don't certify FireGL's etc. Likewise, some products often favor AMD GPU's over Quadro's, especially Cinebench and Luxmark. ReplyLiKenun - Thursday, April 13, 2023 - link
So what about vGPU? Some competition is sorely needed there. ReplyBruzzone - Saturday, April 15, 2023 - link
Radeon Pro W = 1.3% of RDNA ll full run productionWithin that 1.3% W6900X (Apple) = 2.2%
W6800X Due (Apple Afterburner) = 6.7%
W6800 = 21%
W6600 = 43%
W6400 = 26.8%
If you want to add 69_0XT to the Radeon Pro W within RDNA ll overall 1.3% + 613% more.
All Radeon Pro RDNA ll full run volume is 2.3% of Ampere RTX A series full run volume.
Mike Bruzzone, Camp Marketing Reply
ballsystemlord - Saturday, April 15, 2023 - link
Interesting. Thanks ReplyBruzzone - Sunday, April 16, 2023 - link
You're welcome AMD entry into vertical by horizontal broadcast family of components with Xilinx is a much bigger opportunity than Pro W on its own where there is a place for professional in broadcast and in a market unlike data center per se (but a segment of data center similar hyperscale and HPC) where AMD chimp does not have to compete with Intel and Nvidia Gorillas. mb Replyscottrichardson - Monday, April 17, 2023 - link
Would normally expect these to become available in an MPX module for the Mac Pro tower. However that would put the new Apple Silicon based Mac Pro in a strange position - likely where the Intel based model has a substantially better GPU option than the M2 Ultra can provide. Replylemurbutton - Tuesday, April 18, 2023 - link
For $4,000, you can get an M1 Ultra with 64GB of unified memory. You're buying an entire system with more VRAM than a Pro W7900. Replykeithrobles - Thursday, April 20, 2023 - link
Thanks for providing enough content for daily subscriptions. Reply