My condolences to the loved ones of this silicon-studded pioneer in chipmaking. I cannot help but think however that his passing is a foreshadowing of the end of Intel's legacy as a leading innovator.Reply
Moore's law. Never actually a "law," but an opinion--a temporary observation/speculation at best based on the SoA tech when Moore voiced his observation. Unfortunately, Intel has used the phrase as marketing fluff for many years. He lived a full life, and a longer one than most. One of the genuine pioneers. RIP. Reply
The old Intel and the many real chads of Semi conductor foundation are a part of that Intel. A transformation of America has changed the fate of the corporation forever. The good old days, I believe Mr. Moore and others had a fullest life back in that time in CA, USA.
On a side note. All the Semi corporations know that Moore's Law is still alive. Intel does mention it so many times but that Nvidia CEO is just honorless by mentioning how it is dead and how his TAA utilizing DLSS upscaler GPUs are worth the unfair pricing. Reply
he seemed like a good guy. when i joined intel in 1995, my cube was right next to his. in fact, the picture shown in this article shows where my cube was - by pole g4!
Moore’s law isn’t really a law in the legal sense or even a proven theory in the scientific sense (such as E = mc2). Rather, it was an observation by the late Gordon Moore in 1965 while he was working at Fairchild Semiconductor: the number of transistors on a microchip (as they were called in 1965) doubled about every year.Reply
nothing new in this video and the comments underneath it.
oddly enough, moore's law does meet the definition of a 'law' - Law: A descriptive generalization about how some aspect of the natural world behaves under stated circumstances.
*An environmentalist when it is convenient for his profit-making. Bill Gates is guilty of the same shenanigans, who complains about cow farts while totally okay with Surfaces and Xboxes that are glued-down (until only recently in very few cases) disposable e-waste.Reply
Some PHDs don't use the doctor title. I know several friends of mine who choose not to use it despite having the doctorate. I have no idea whether or not that applies to this case, but it's entirely possible that it does.
On topic: Many CEOs won't have a fraction of the impact in their industry that Gordon Moore (or Dr. Gordon Moore, if that were to be correct) had. That's an amazing legacy and hopefully one that Intel won't let down.Reply
Gordon didn't like using his "Dr." title outside of technical events with other engineers. He was a regular, humble guy that just so happened to be a genius. Other people coined the phrase "Moore's Law", it wasn't him. He said himself he couldn't even stand to utter the phrase at first because it embarrassed him. It wasn't even a law. But after 15 or 20 years he realized it wasn't going anywhere so he got used to using it. Reply
Moore's Law was never a law of physics, but instead a law of "customer expectations". After several successive generations of shrinking transistor geometries, shrinking power consumption per transistor, and increasing speed and total transistor counts, all resulting in substantial performance increases relative to prior generations, customers expected more of the same going forward. Generation after generation of microprocessors delivered substantial improvements relative to those produced on earlier, less dense processes. The industry had gotten on a treadmill that was harder and more expensive to stay on, but customers expected them to keep going... And amazingly, the industry has, but is approaching physical size limits for shrinkage.Reply
It wasn't a law but an observation of past trends of research & economics. For many decades the number transistors per chip have doubled every 18 to 24months. Overall performance had a similar rate of improvement but has slowed in recent years with more improvements for limited instructions/uses. Cooling of small areas is now a significant limitation.Reply
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Hifihedgehog - Saturday, March 25, 2023 - link
My condolences to the loved ones of this silicon-studded pioneer in chipmaking. I cannot help but think however that his passing is a foreshadowing of the end of Intel's legacy as a leading innovator. Replylmcd - Saturday, March 25, 2023 - link
You actually can help it, at least for one posts' comment section! ReplyHifihedgehog - Saturday, March 25, 2023 - link
Come again? I wrote an idiom. Replymukiex - Saturday, March 25, 2023 - link
Damn. Rough news. ReplyWaltC - Saturday, March 25, 2023 - link
Moore's law. Never actually a "law," but an opinion--a temporary observation/speculation at best based on the SoA tech when Moore voiced his observation. Unfortunately, Intel has used the phrase as marketing fluff for many years. He lived a full life, and a longer one than most. One of the genuine pioneers. RIP. ReplyThreska - Saturday, March 25, 2023 - link
Rule of thumb is more like it. ReplySilver5urfer - Saturday, March 25, 2023 - link
A Legend, Mr. Gordon Moore.The old Intel and the many real chads of Semi conductor foundation are a part of that Intel. A transformation of America has changed the fate of the corporation forever. The good old days, I believe Mr. Moore and others had a fullest life back in that time in CA, USA.
On a side note. All the Semi corporations know that Moore's Law is still alive. Intel does mention it so many times but that Nvidia CEO is just honorless by mentioning how it is dead and how his TAA utilizing DLSS upscaler GPUs are worth the unfair pricing. Reply
12xu - Saturday, March 25, 2023 - link
he seemed like a good guy. when i joined intel in 1995, my cube was right next to his. in fact, the picture shown in this article shows where my cube was - by pole g4!of course, moore's law isn't a law. from https://www.synopsys.com/glossary/what-is-moores-l...
Moore’s law isn’t really a law in the legal sense or even a proven theory in the scientific sense (such as E = mc2). Rather, it was an observation by the late Gordon Moore in 1965 while he was working at Fairchild Semiconductor: the number of transistors on a microchip (as they were called in 1965) doubled about every year. Reply
Threska - Sunday, March 26, 2023 - link
Big discussion on that.https://youtu.be/nRJgvX6P8dI Reply
12xu - Sunday, March 26, 2023 - link
nothing new in this video and the comments underneath it.oddly enough, moore's law does meet the definition of a 'law' - Law: A descriptive generalization about how some aspect of the natural world behaves under stated circumstances.
so i stand corrected, if we are to believe https://ncse.ngo/definitions-fact-theory-and-law-s... Reply
Chaitanya - Saturday, March 25, 2023 - link
RIP.Ironically Intel is lobbying against ban of PFA and other hazardous chemicals while Moore himself was a environmentalist. Reply
Hifihedgehog - Sunday, March 26, 2023 - link
*An environmentalist when it is convenient for his profit-making. Bill Gates is guilty of the same shenanigans, who complains about cow farts while totally okay with Surfaces and Xboxes that are glued-down (until only recently in very few cases) disposable e-waste. ReplySamus - Monday, March 27, 2023 - link
Probably up there playing a Bridge with Albert Einstein, Alan Turing and Nikola Tesla ReplyOxford Guy - Monday, March 27, 2023 - link
A bridge too far. Replysmithereens - Monday, March 27, 2023 - link
Seems kinda pompous to refer to Ian as "Dr. Ian Cutress" but to not refer to Gordon as "Dr. Gordon Moore." ReplyOxford Guy - Monday, March 27, 2023 - link
Titles are being killed, in favor of everyone going by their first name. ReplyDrumsticks - Tuesday, March 28, 2023 - link
Some PHDs don't use the doctor title. I know several friends of mine who choose not to use it despite having the doctorate. I have no idea whether or not that applies to this case, but it's entirely possible that it does.On topic: Many CEOs won't have a fraction of the impact in their industry that Gordon Moore (or Dr. Gordon Moore, if that were to be correct) had. That's an amazing legacy and hopefully one that Intel won't let down. Reply
JKflipflop98 - Wednesday, March 29, 2023 - link
Gordon didn't like using his "Dr." title outside of technical events with other engineers. He was a regular, humble guy that just so happened to be a genius. Other people coined the phrase "Moore's Law", it wasn't him. He said himself he couldn't even stand to utter the phrase at first because it embarrassed him. It wasn't even a law. But after 15 or 20 years he realized it wasn't going anywhere so he got used to using it. Replydwbogardus - Friday, March 31, 2023 - link
Moore's Law was never a law of physics, but instead a law of "customer expectations". After several successive generations of shrinking transistor geometries, shrinking power consumption per transistor, and increasing speed and total transistor counts, all resulting in substantial performance increases relative to prior generations, customers expected more of the same going forward. Generation after generation of microprocessors delivered substantial improvements relative to those produced on earlier, less dense processes. The industry had gotten on a treadmill that was harder and more expensive to stay on, but customers expected them to keep going... And amazingly, the industry has, but is approaching physical size limits for shrinkage. Replytygrus - Wednesday, April 26, 2023 - link
It wasn't a law but an observation of past trends of research & economics. For many decades the number transistors per chip have doubled every 18 to 24months. Overall performance had a similar rate of improvement but has slowed in recent years with more improvements for limited instructions/uses. Cooling of small areas is now a significant limitation. Reply